It's tough losing a guy like Ervin. He's been a guy that has really helped us, especially last year. He's been struggling and has been given a lot of opportunities to work things out. They just decided that they wanted to send him down so he can get it back. The talent is definitely there. He really has been struggling for an extended period of time. By sending him down he can work on things without as much pressure. He's got great stuff. He just needs to refine his location and secondary pitches. Once he does that he'll be back doing well. It's a tough deal because you really don't know what to say - good luck, we'll see you again. And he was obviously not happy, so he didn't say much. He's been called into the the office a couple of times. They've been watching him closely for awhile now so it's not a surprise. Ervin works hard and he'll figure it out. It's actually good for both guys because Ervin needs to work things out and Joe Saunders is ready for his chance. I told him when they sent him down earlier that he would be back for good soon. He definitely has that chance. If he pitches well down the stretch he'll be here. This is going to be his tryout. We need more consistency. We're in a close race and need a guy to be a little more consistent.